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Muslim sister - Yasmin [Visitor] — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 11:40:47 +0000

I have 2 questions please if they can be answered by your scholars:

1.) When someone passes away, some traditions suggest that you can recite the Quran as many times as you can they give the reward for it to the deceased, usually in the 40 day period, is this authentic or just tradition? Will the deceased get any benefit for the recitation of the Quran from the family even after 40 days?

2.) Can a child wear any recitation of the Quran as a Taweez for their protection like e.g. Ital Kursi ?

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ANTI_IKHWAN [Visitor] — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 00:06:35 +0000

THE TWO PREVIOUS QUESTIONS BECAME THREE, AFTER THE ADDITIONAL POST.
1 - IS THE PROPHET MOHAMMAD A BROTHER OF PHARAOH فرعون & ABU JAHL???

2- IS IT OK TO SAY: OH ALLAH HAVE MERCY ON GEORGE W BUSH?

3- DO YOU ADMIT THAT MERCY IS INCLUDED IN THE WORD (SALAH) IN THE ABOVE MENTIONED VERSES? THEN DO YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO ADMIT THIS FACT YOU WERE IGNORANT ABOUT?

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ANTI-IKHWAN [Visitor] — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:50:25 +0000

Ikhwan doctrine regarding matter of loyalty and dissociation (الولاء والبراء) are muddled due to their political commitments, courtesies and flattery.
That is why we Qaradawi have even been denying that non muslims are totally Kuffar. Furthermore Qaradawi and His Sheikh Hasanul Banna, both claimed that our enmity with the Jews is not religious but only economic!!!

Brother Al-Ikhwan missed to know due to his ignorance that the word (Salah) in the Qur’an has been repeatedly used for the meaning of mercy.
I have quoted that for him before but as usual he ignored it.

Allah says:
ولا تصل على أحد منهم مات أبدا ولا تقم على قبره إنهم كفروا بالله ورسوله.
TRANSLATION:
« And do not pray [the funeral prayer, O Muhammad ] , over any of them who has died – ever – or stand at his grave. Indeed , they disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger and died while they were defiantly disobedient» (Tawba83).

We know that the Prophet had taught us to say in our funeral prayer: «Oh Allah forgive him, Ah Allah have mercy on him».

So Salah is mercy. Let’s see another evidence which will put Al-Ikhwan on the criterion:
Allah says:
خذ من أموالهم صدقة تطهرهم وتزكيهم بها وصل عليهم (التوبة103).
TRANSLATION:
Take [O Muhammad] from their wealth charity by which you purify them and cause them increase, and (SALLI ALAIHIM) invoke PRAYER upon them.

All commentators agreed (Mufassiroon) that Salah here means mercy.
I will keep the Arabic text with the reference
And will translate it:
قال البغوي في معنى قوله تعالى (وصل عليهم) أي ادع لهم، الصلاة من الله في هذه الآية الرحمة (تفسير البغوي1/63 تفسير القرطبي8/235 التفسير الكبير25/70).

Imam Qurtubi, Razi and Baagawi said: « Salah here means mercy».
So, since Salah means mercy: NOW TAKE THIS:
Imam Nawawi said: invoking Salah on the Kafir or asking Allah to forgive him is Haram by the evidence of the Quran and unanimously (consensus) (Almajmoo , V. 5 pp.144, 258).

I quoted to you as well the Hadith: « the Jews used to sneeze deliberately before the Prophet hoping he would ask mercy for them but the Prophet used to say to them, “May Allah guide you,” instead of what he usually says to the Muslim, “May Allah have mercy on you.”
However, Brother Al-Ikhwan had ignored it also.
Mulla Ali Qari – Hanafi scholar explained this hadith saying: « Because mercy is specified for the believers only» ()Merqatul Mafatih Sharh Mishkatul Masabih14L9).

Imam Ibin Hajar said, « Muslims are the people whom invoke Allah's mercy for, unlike the disbelievers» (Fat-hl Bari10L604).

But you have provided an extremely poor evidence regarding Abu Talib.
Not all Kuffar are equal in their disbelief. So Abu Talib's punishment was less because his deeds was lesser than others.
Qadi Iyad said this clearly:
قال القاضي عياض « وقد انعقد الإجماع على أن الكفار لا تنفعهم أعمالهم ولا يثابون عليها بنعيم ولا تخفيف عذاب لكن بعضهم أشد عذاباً من بعض بحسب جرائمهم. هذا آخر كلام القاضي».
« It had been unanimously accorded that Kuffar's good deeds will not be beneficial nor will they be rewarded by it, but punishment of some will be less than others according to their various deeds».

So, please after all bits of evidence, please Brother Ikhwan confess that you are wrong and that your Ikhwan cult had deceived you and taught you clear false concepts.

It is not shame to confess but it will rather raise your honor by Allah.

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ANTI-IKHWAN [Visitor] — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:43:00 +0000

Since brother Al-Ikhwan had escaped the debate, raising the white flag which showed the level of knowledge he has:

I will detail important points regarding the verses he quoted.

ANTI-IKHWAN
Brother Al-Ikhwan
Assalamu alaikum

Alhamdulillah the level of your discussion is getting higher so we can have a mutual respectful dialogue.

There are no need for your examples since Allah had made it clear that His Mercy is for those who believed, and His Prophet is Merciful towards the believers.

Fire is not a place of mercy, so lightening the fire is not a mercy. No measurement with the text. Allah described Jannah as the house of Mercy.

You have said the following:
« In the video, Sheikh Al Qaradawi is asking for mercy for the good deed that was made by the Pope».

So my answer is this:
Abu Talib had made more good deeds to the Muslims before the Pope, yet neither the Prophet nor any companion said the like of what Mr. Qaradawi said.

This is another evidence that seeking forgiveness includes the meaning of seeking mercy, otherwise, why no one asked mercy for the good deed that was made by ABU TALIB?!

To make an easier ending for your mistake is to remind you that there is Ijmaa3 (agreement) of all scholars that it is not allowed to ask mercy for the Kuffar especially those who died and we have known already that they died on the state of Kufr.

As for your other highest evidence (To Ad their brother Hud).

The verse is not in the context or the subject of brotherhood concept, but it is indicative to the repeated fact in the Qur’an that Allah doesn't send a prophet to a people except from among themselves for the better and clearest conveying, so the Hujjah (evidence).

That is why when Allah mentioned the people of (AIKAH) He said:
That is why Allah didn't use the word (brother) when he talked about prophet (Shu'Ayb) and the people of (AIKAH).

Read this Ayah from the QUR’AN carefully:
«The companions of the AYKAH (thicket) denied the messengers. When Shu’ayb said to them, “Will you not fear Allah» (Soorat SHU'ARA)

As you can see, the word (brother) is not mentioned here, since it has been used to indicate that the Prophet belongs to his tribe or village.

But there is an exemption, the prophet Shu'ayb doesn't belong to the people of (AYKAH) but he is the brother of Madyan because he is born of them.

Thus the verses you have quoted were indicating that those prophets belong to the same tribe.

As Allah said in many verses:

((( And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them))).

Maryam was described as (SISTER OF Aaron) the brother of Moosa.
But there are hundreds of years between her and Aaron.

Therefore it means she belongs to an honorable tribe, so her people were wondering about her son, reminding her that she was a descendant of an honorable tribe, so how did she get the child from?

That is it will be considered as a lie if you say: that Prophet Saleh is a brother of AAD tribe, because Allah said Saleh is the brother THAMOOD.

The word (BROTHER) in those verses are used within the meaning of pare, or match or similarity. BUT NOT THEY WERE NOT REVEALED FOR THE PURPOSE OR THE CONCEPT OF BROTHERHOOD IN HUMANITY AS YOU DELUDE OTHERS,
YOU ARE TWISTING THE VERSES TO BECOME MORE FIT TO THE NEW MASON CALL FOR SECULAR BROTHERHOOD REGARDLESS OF FAITH OR RELIGION.

The Mason's three slogans are:
1. Freedom 2. Equality 3. Brotherhood.
I hope you are not freemasonic Muslim.
Besides, Your cult's name is (Muslim Brotherhood), it is not Secular brotherhood, so leave it to some others who do not emphasize the universal botherhood, or give up titling your cult with the Islamic type of brotherhood, or modify it to become: (brotherhood without faith).

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ANTI0IKHWAN [Visitor] — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:32:45 +0000

Brother Visiter may Allah bless you:
you are talking about the way of speech, didn't you see Al-Ikhwan's arrogant way who started accusing Sheikh Dimishki that he was kicked out from AlAzhar school because he was a gay!!!

Such a false accusation he copied from the diviant Habashi cult.

Be just brother, may Allah forgive you & accept your fasting despite calling me idiot & hypocrite.
Ramadan Mubarak

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Visitor [Visitor] — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:52:03 +0000

Regarding Al-Ikhwan and Anti-Ikhwan (especially the
hypocrite anti-ikhwan who curses and blesses per phrase).

Dear Administrator - Please can you remove the posts
by these two keyboard warrior idiots.
The posts are completely irrelevant to this forum which
is supposed to be regarding facilities at the mosque.

Anti-Ikhwan - I suggest you try and clean your way of
thinking and stop continually throwing daggers yet pretend
to be a godly man because it is apparent from your posts
that you are a nasty man who thrives on insults yet tries
to pathetically sound nice by reminding people of the ways
of Islam. Lets hope any non-muslims reading this are not
put off Islam because that's what you are in danger of
doing according to all your comments.

Why are you letting this happen??

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ANTI-IKHWAN [Visitor] — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:02:21 +0000

Brother may Allah bless you, Al-Ikhwan was calling us to take Abu Jahl & Pharao as brothers to the prophet Mohammad (SAAW).

We are waiting for him to answer the two questions only.

I am sure you love the prophet Mohammad & you don't like what he suggested on us, so since you do – as I hope - you will not be bothered to wait for his answer to the above two questions.

Please don't loose your patience may Allah bless you.
May Allah make Ramadan a month of forgiveness & mercy to you & to all Muslims.

We hope Brother Al-Ikhwan is not invoking Allah during these blessed days of Ramadan to have mercy on his brother in humanity: Sharon & George w. Bush.

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Please take this forum offline [Visitor] — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 13:41:17 +0000

Come one chaps - the purpose of this blog is to discuss ways of improving the Masjids in Edinburgh, and hearing collective ideas about how one might take on such a task.

Take your school boys discssions to another playground.

Please!