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Muslim sister - Yasmin [Visitor]
I have 2 questions please if they can be answered by your scholars:
1.) When someone passes away, some traditions suggest that you can recite the Quran as many times as you can they give the reward for it to the deceased, usually in the 40 day period, is this authentic or just tradition? Will the deceased get any benefit for the recitation of the Quran from the family even after 40 days?
2.) Can a child wear any recitation of the Quran as a Taweez for their protection like e.g. Ital Kursi ?
1.) When someone passes away, some traditions suggest that you can recite the Quran as many times as you can they give the reward for it to the deceased, usually in the 40 day period, is this authentic or just tradition? Will the deceased get any benefit for the recitation of the Quran from the family even after 40 days?
2.) Can a child wear any recitation of the Quran as a Taweez for their protection like e.g. Ital Kursi ?
Permalink 07/09/10 @ 06:40 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
ANTI_IKHWAN [Visitor]
THE TWO PREVIOUS QUESTIONS BECAME THREE, AFTER THE ADDITIONAL POST.
1 - IS THE PROPHET MOHAMMAD A BROTHER OF PHARAOH فرعون & ABU JAHL???
2- IS IT OK TO SAY: OH ALLAH HAVE MERCY ON GEORGE W BUSH?
3- DO YOU ADMIT THAT MERCY IS INCLUDED IN THE WORD (SALAH) IN THE ABOVE MENTIONED VERSES? THEN DO YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO ADMIT THIS FACT YOU WERE IGNORANT ABOUT?
1 - IS THE PROPHET MOHAMMAD A BROTHER OF PHARAOH فرعون & ABU JAHL???
2- IS IT OK TO SAY: OH ALLAH HAVE MERCY ON GEORGE W BUSH?
3- DO YOU ADMIT THAT MERCY IS INCLUDED IN THE WORD (SALAH) IN THE ABOVE MENTIONED VERSES? THEN DO YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO ADMIT THIS FACT YOU WERE IGNORANT ABOUT?
Permalink 06/09/10 @ 19:06 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
ANTI-IKHWAN [Visitor]
Ikhwan doctrine regarding matter of loyalty and dissociation (الولاء والبراء) are muddled due to their political commitments, courtesies and flattery.
That is why we Qaradawi have even been denying that non muslims are totally Kuffar. Furthermore Qaradawi and His Sheikh Hasanul Banna, both claimed that our enmity with the Jews is not religious but only economic!!!
Brother Al-Ikhwan missed to know due to his ignorance that the word (Salah) in the Qur’an has been repeatedly used for the meaning of mercy.
I have quoted that for him before but as usual he ignored it.
Allah says:
ولا تصل على أحد منهم مات أبدا ولا تقم على قبره إنهم كفروا بالله ورسوله.
TRANSLATION:
« And do not pray [the funeral prayer, O Muhammad ] , over any of them who has died – ever – or stand at his grave. Indeed , they disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger and died while they were defiantly disobedient» (Tawba83).
We know that the Prophet had taught us to say in our funeral prayer: «Oh Allah forgive him, Ah Allah have mercy on him».
So Salah is mercy. Let’s see another evidence which will put Al-Ikhwan on the criterion:
Allah says:
خذ من أموالهم صدقة تطهرهم وتزكيهم بها وصل عليهم (التوبة103).
TRANSLATION:
Take [O Muhammad] from their wealth charity by which you purify them and cause them increase, and (SALLI ALAIHIM) invoke PRAYER upon them.
All commentators agreed (Mufassiroon) that Salah here means mercy.
I will keep the Arabic text with the reference
And will translate it:
قال البغوي في معنى قوله تعالى (وصل عليهم) أي ادع لهم، الصلاة من الله في هذه الآية الرحمة (تفسير البغوي1/63 تفسير القرطبي8/235 التفسير الكبير25/70).
Imam Qurtubi, Razi and Baagawi said: « Salah here means mercy».
So, since Salah means mercy: NOW TAKE THIS:
Imam Nawawi said: invoking Salah on the Kafir or asking Allah to forgive him is Haram by the evidence of the Quran and unanimously (consensus) (Almajmoo , V. 5 pp.144, 258).
I quoted to you as well the Hadith: « the Jews used to sneeze deliberately before the Prophet hoping he would ask mercy for them but the Prophet used to say to them, “May Allah guide you,” instead of what he usually says to the Muslim, “May Allah have mercy on you.”
However, Brother Al-Ikhwan had ignored it also.
Mulla Ali Qari – Hanafi scholar explained this hadith saying: « Because mercy is specified for the believers only» ()Merqatul Mafatih Sharh Mishkatul Masabih14L9).
Imam Ibin Hajar said, « Muslims are the people whom invoke Allah's mercy for, unlike the disbelievers» (Fat-hl Bari10L604).
But you have provided an extremely poor evidence regarding Abu Talib.
Not all Kuffar are equal in their disbelief. So Abu Talib's punishment was less because his deeds was lesser than others.
Qadi Iyad said this clearly:
قال القاضي عياض « وقد انعقد الإجماع على أن الكفار لا تنفعهم أعمالهم ولا يثابون عليها بنعيم ولا تخفيف عذاب لكن بعضهم أشد عذاباً من بعض بحسب جرائمهم. هذا آخر كلام القاضي».
« It had been unanimously accorded that Kuffar's good deeds will not be beneficial nor will they be rewarded by it, but punishment of some will be less than others according to their various deeds».
So, please after all bits of evidence, please Brother Ikhwan confess that you are wrong and that your Ikhwan cult had deceived you and taught you clear false concepts.
It is not shame to confess but it will rather raise your honor by Allah.
That is why we Qaradawi have even been denying that non muslims are totally Kuffar. Furthermore Qaradawi and His Sheikh Hasanul Banna, both claimed that our enmity with the Jews is not religious but only economic!!!
Brother Al-Ikhwan missed to know due to his ignorance that the word (Salah) in the Qur’an has been repeatedly used for the meaning of mercy.
I have quoted that for him before but as usual he ignored it.
Allah says:
ولا تصل على أحد منهم مات أبدا ولا تقم على قبره إنهم كفروا بالله ورسوله.
TRANSLATION:
« And do not pray [the funeral prayer, O Muhammad ] , over any of them who has died – ever – or stand at his grave. Indeed , they disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger and died while they were defiantly disobedient» (Tawba83).
We know that the Prophet had taught us to say in our funeral prayer: «Oh Allah forgive him, Ah Allah have mercy on him».
So Salah is mercy. Let’s see another evidence which will put Al-Ikhwan on the criterion:
Allah says:
خذ من أموالهم صدقة تطهرهم وتزكيهم بها وصل عليهم (التوبة103).
TRANSLATION:
Take [O Muhammad] from their wealth charity by which you purify them and cause them increase, and (SALLI ALAIHIM) invoke PRAYER upon them.
All commentators agreed (Mufassiroon) that Salah here means mercy.
I will keep the Arabic text with the reference
And will translate it:
قال البغوي في معنى قوله تعالى (وصل عليهم) أي ادع لهم، الصلاة من الله في هذه الآية الرحمة (تفسير البغوي1/63 تفسير القرطبي8/235 التفسير الكبير25/70).
Imam Qurtubi, Razi and Baagawi said: « Salah here means mercy».
So, since Salah means mercy: NOW TAKE THIS:
Imam Nawawi said: invoking Salah on the Kafir or asking Allah to forgive him is Haram by the evidence of the Quran and unanimously (consensus) (Almajmoo , V. 5 pp.144, 258).
I quoted to you as well the Hadith: « the Jews used to sneeze deliberately before the Prophet hoping he would ask mercy for them but the Prophet used to say to them, “May Allah guide you,” instead of what he usually says to the Muslim, “May Allah have mercy on you.”
However, Brother Al-Ikhwan had ignored it also.
Mulla Ali Qari – Hanafi scholar explained this hadith saying: « Because mercy is specified for the believers only» ()Merqatul Mafatih Sharh Mishkatul Masabih14L9).
Imam Ibin Hajar said, « Muslims are the people whom invoke Allah's mercy for, unlike the disbelievers» (Fat-hl Bari10L604).
But you have provided an extremely poor evidence regarding Abu Talib.
Not all Kuffar are equal in their disbelief. So Abu Talib's punishment was less because his deeds was lesser than others.
Qadi Iyad said this clearly:
قال القاضي عياض « وقد انعقد الإجماع على أن الكفار لا تنفعهم أعمالهم ولا يثابون عليها بنعيم ولا تخفيف عذاب لكن بعضهم أشد عذاباً من بعض بحسب جرائمهم. هذا آخر كلام القاضي».
« It had been unanimously accorded that Kuffar's good deeds will not be beneficial nor will they be rewarded by it, but punishment of some will be less than others according to their various deeds».
So, please after all bits of evidence, please Brother Ikhwan confess that you are wrong and that your Ikhwan cult had deceived you and taught you clear false concepts.
It is not shame to confess but it will rather raise your honor by Allah.
Permalink 05/09/10 @ 19:50 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
ANTI-IKHWAN [Visitor]
Since brother Al-Ikhwan had escaped the debate, raising the white flag which showed the level of knowledge he has:
I will detail important points regarding the verses he quoted.
ANTI-IKHWAN
Brother Al-Ikhwan
Assalamu alaikum
Alhamdulillah the level of your discussion is getting higher so we can have a mutual respectful dialogue.
There are no need for your examples since Allah had made it clear that His Mercy is for those who believed, and His Prophet is Merciful towards the believers.
Fire is not a place of mercy, so lightening the fire is not a mercy. No measurement with the text. Allah described Jannah as the house of Mercy.
You have said the following:
« In the video, Sheikh Al Qaradawi is asking for mercy for the good deed that was made by the Pope».
So my answer is this:
Abu Talib had made more good deeds to the Muslims before the Pope, yet neither the Prophet nor any companion said the like of what Mr. Qaradawi said.
This is another evidence that seeking forgiveness includes the meaning of seeking mercy, otherwise, why no one asked mercy for the good deed that was made by ABU TALIB?!
To make an easier ending for your mistake is to remind you that there is Ijmaa3 (agreement) of all scholars that it is not allowed to ask mercy for the Kuffar especially those who died and we have known already that they died on the state of Kufr.
As for your other highest evidence (To Ad their brother Hud).
The verse is not in the context or the subject of brotherhood concept, but it is indicative to the repeated fact in the Qur’an that Allah doesn't send a prophet to a people except from among themselves for the better and clearest conveying, so the Hujjah (evidence).
That is why when Allah mentioned the people of (AIKAH) He said:
That is why Allah didn't use the word (brother) when he talked about prophet (Shu'Ayb) and the people of (AIKAH).
Read this Ayah from the QUR’AN carefully:
«The companions of the AYKAH (thicket) denied the messengers. When Shu’ayb said to them, “Will you not fear Allah» (Soorat SHU'ARA)
As you can see, the word (brother) is not mentioned here, since it has been used to indicate that the Prophet belongs to his tribe or village.
But there is an exemption, the prophet Shu'ayb doesn't belong to the people of (AYKAH) but he is the brother of Madyan because he is born of them.
Thus the verses you have quoted were indicating that those prophets belong to the same tribe.
As Allah said in many verses:
((( And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them))).
Maryam was described as (SISTER OF Aaron) the brother of Moosa.
But there are hundreds of years between her and Aaron.
Therefore it means she belongs to an honorable tribe, so her people were wondering about her son, reminding her that she was a descendant of an honorable tribe, so how did she get the child from?
That is it will be considered as a lie if you say: that Prophet Saleh is a brother of AAD tribe, because Allah said Saleh is the brother THAMOOD.
The word (BROTHER) in those verses are used within the meaning of pare, or match or similarity. BUT NOT THEY WERE NOT REVEALED FOR THE PURPOSE OR THE CONCEPT OF BROTHERHOOD IN HUMANITY AS YOU DELUDE OTHERS,
YOU ARE TWISTING THE VERSES TO BECOME MORE FIT TO THE NEW MASON CALL FOR SECULAR BROTHERHOOD REGARDLESS OF FAITH OR RELIGION.
The Mason's three slogans are:
1. Freedom 2. Equality 3. Brotherhood.
I hope you are not freemasonic Muslim.
Besides, Your cult's name is (Muslim Brotherhood), it is not Secular brotherhood, so leave it to some others who do not emphasize the universal botherhood, or give up titling your cult with the Islamic type of brotherhood, or modify it to become: (brotherhood without faith).
I will detail important points regarding the verses he quoted.
ANTI-IKHWAN
Brother Al-Ikhwan
Assalamu alaikum
Alhamdulillah the level of your discussion is getting higher so we can have a mutual respectful dialogue.
There are no need for your examples since Allah had made it clear that His Mercy is for those who believed, and His Prophet is Merciful towards the believers.
Fire is not a place of mercy, so lightening the fire is not a mercy. No measurement with the text. Allah described Jannah as the house of Mercy.
You have said the following:
« In the video, Sheikh Al Qaradawi is asking for mercy for the good deed that was made by the Pope».
So my answer is this:
Abu Talib had made more good deeds to the Muslims before the Pope, yet neither the Prophet nor any companion said the like of what Mr. Qaradawi said.
This is another evidence that seeking forgiveness includes the meaning of seeking mercy, otherwise, why no one asked mercy for the good deed that was made by ABU TALIB?!
To make an easier ending for your mistake is to remind you that there is Ijmaa3 (agreement) of all scholars that it is not allowed to ask mercy for the Kuffar especially those who died and we have known already that they died on the state of Kufr.
As for your other highest evidence (To Ad their brother Hud).
The verse is not in the context or the subject of brotherhood concept, but it is indicative to the repeated fact in the Qur’an that Allah doesn't send a prophet to a people except from among themselves for the better and clearest conveying, so the Hujjah (evidence).
That is why when Allah mentioned the people of (AIKAH) He said:
That is why Allah didn't use the word (brother) when he talked about prophet (Shu'Ayb) and the people of (AIKAH).
Read this Ayah from the QUR’AN carefully:
«The companions of the AYKAH (thicket) denied the messengers. When Shu’ayb said to them, “Will you not fear Allah» (Soorat SHU'ARA)
As you can see, the word (brother) is not mentioned here, since it has been used to indicate that the Prophet belongs to his tribe or village.
But there is an exemption, the prophet Shu'ayb doesn't belong to the people of (AYKAH) but he is the brother of Madyan because he is born of them.
Thus the verses you have quoted were indicating that those prophets belong to the same tribe.
As Allah said in many verses:
((( And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them))).
Maryam was described as (SISTER OF Aaron) the brother of Moosa.
But there are hundreds of years between her and Aaron.
Therefore it means she belongs to an honorable tribe, so her people were wondering about her son, reminding her that she was a descendant of an honorable tribe, so how did she get the child from?
That is it will be considered as a lie if you say: that Prophet Saleh is a brother of AAD tribe, because Allah said Saleh is the brother THAMOOD.
The word (BROTHER) in those verses are used within the meaning of pare, or match or similarity. BUT NOT THEY WERE NOT REVEALED FOR THE PURPOSE OR THE CONCEPT OF BROTHERHOOD IN HUMANITY AS YOU DELUDE OTHERS,
YOU ARE TWISTING THE VERSES TO BECOME MORE FIT TO THE NEW MASON CALL FOR SECULAR BROTHERHOOD REGARDLESS OF FAITH OR RELIGION.
The Mason's three slogans are:
1. Freedom 2. Equality 3. Brotherhood.
I hope you are not freemasonic Muslim.
Besides, Your cult's name is (Muslim Brotherhood), it is not Secular brotherhood, so leave it to some others who do not emphasize the universal botherhood, or give up titling your cult with the Islamic type of brotherhood, or modify it to become: (brotherhood without faith).
Permalink 05/09/10 @ 19:43 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
ANTI0IKHWAN [Visitor]
Brother Visiter may Allah bless you:
you are talking about the way of speech, didn't you see Al-Ikhwan's arrogant way who started accusing Sheikh Dimishki that he was kicked out from AlAzhar school because he was a gay!!!
Such a false accusation he copied from the diviant Habashi cult.
Be just brother, may Allah forgive you & accept your fasting despite calling me idiot & hypocrite.
Ramadan Mubarak
you are talking about the way of speech, didn't you see Al-Ikhwan's arrogant way who started accusing Sheikh Dimishki that he was kicked out from AlAzhar school because he was a gay!!!
Such a false accusation he copied from the diviant Habashi cult.
Be just brother, may Allah forgive you & accept your fasting despite calling me idiot & hypocrite.
Ramadan Mubarak
Permalink 05/09/10 @ 19:32 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
Visitor [Visitor]
Regarding Al-Ikhwan and Anti-Ikhwan (especially the
hypocrite anti-ikhwan who curses and blesses per phrase).
Dear Administrator - Please can you remove the posts
by these two keyboard warrior idiots.
The posts are completely irrelevant to this forum which
is supposed to be regarding facilities at the mosque.
Anti-Ikhwan - I suggest you try and clean your way of
thinking and stop continually throwing daggers yet pretend
to be a godly man because it is apparent from your posts
that you are a nasty man who thrives on insults yet tries
to pathetically sound nice by reminding people of the ways
of Islam. Lets hope any non-muslims reading this are not
put off Islam because that's what you are in danger of
doing according to all your comments.
Why are you letting this happen??
hypocrite anti-ikhwan who curses and blesses per phrase).
Dear Administrator - Please can you remove the posts
by these two keyboard warrior idiots.
The posts are completely irrelevant to this forum which
is supposed to be regarding facilities at the mosque.
Anti-Ikhwan - I suggest you try and clean your way of
thinking and stop continually throwing daggers yet pretend
to be a godly man because it is apparent from your posts
that you are a nasty man who thrives on insults yet tries
to pathetically sound nice by reminding people of the ways
of Islam. Lets hope any non-muslims reading this are not
put off Islam because that's what you are in danger of
doing according to all your comments.
Why are you letting this happen??
Permalink 05/09/10 @ 15:52 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
ANTI-IKHWAN [Visitor]
Brother may Allah bless you, Al-Ikhwan was calling us to take Abu Jahl & Pharao as brothers to the prophet Mohammad (SAAW).
We are waiting for him to answer the two questions only.
I am sure you love the prophet Mohammad & you don't like what he suggested on us, so since you do – as I hope - you will not be bothered to wait for his answer to the above two questions.
Please don't loose your patience may Allah bless you.
May Allah make Ramadan a month of forgiveness & mercy to you & to all Muslims.
We hope Brother Al-Ikhwan is not invoking Allah during these blessed days of Ramadan to have mercy on his brother in humanity: Sharon & George w. Bush.
We are waiting for him to answer the two questions only.
I am sure you love the prophet Mohammad & you don't like what he suggested on us, so since you do – as I hope - you will not be bothered to wait for his answer to the above two questions.
Please don't loose your patience may Allah bless you.
May Allah make Ramadan a month of forgiveness & mercy to you & to all Muslims.
We hope Brother Al-Ikhwan is not invoking Allah during these blessed days of Ramadan to have mercy on his brother in humanity: Sharon & George w. Bush.
Permalink 01/09/10 @ 09:02 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
Please take this forum offline [Visitor]
Come one chaps - the purpose of this blog is to discuss ways of improving the Masjids in Edinburgh, and hearing collective ideas about how one might take on such a task.
Take your school boys discssions to another playground.
Please!
Take your school boys discssions to another playground.
Please!
Permalink 31/08/10 @ 08:41 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
ANTI-IKHWAN [Visitor]
WHERE IS THE BROTHER OF KUFFAR IN HUMANITY???
WHY HE DOESN'T ANSWER THE TWO QUESTIONS?
IT SEEMS HE DOESN'T TRUST THE GOODS HE PREACHES!
PLEASE ANSWER THE TWO AWAITING QUESTIONS:
1- IS PROPHET MOHAMMAD A BROTHER OF PHARAOH & ABU JAHL & ABU LAHAB?
2- IS IT OK TO SAY: OH ALLAH HAVE MERCY ON MY BROTHER GEORGE W BUSH?
YES OR NO?
WHY HE DOESN'T ANSWER THE TWO QUESTIONS?
IT SEEMS HE DOESN'T TRUST THE GOODS HE PREACHES!
PLEASE ANSWER THE TWO AWAITING QUESTIONS:
1- IS PROPHET MOHAMMAD A BROTHER OF PHARAOH & ABU JAHL & ABU LAHAB?
2- IS IT OK TO SAY: OH ALLAH HAVE MERCY ON MY BROTHER GEORGE W BUSH?
YES OR NO?
Permalink 31/08/10 @ 06:52 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Anwar-e-Madina - Annandale Mosque
m akram [Visitor]
i dont think hafiz sahib charges any money for attesting any papers
Permalink 29/08/10 @ 17:48 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
ANTI-IKHWAN [Visitor]
TWO QUESTIONS ONLY.
NO NEED TO FILL A WHOLE PAGE. ONLY ONE WORD IS ENOUGH:
1- IS PROPHET MOHAMMAD A BROTHER OF PHARAOH فرعون & ABU JAHL???
2- IS IT OK TO SAY:
OH ALLAH HAVE MERCY ON GEORGE W BUSH
NO NEED TO FILL A WHOLE PAGE. ONLY ONE WORD IS ENOUGH:
1- IS PROPHET MOHAMMAD A BROTHER OF PHARAOH فرعون & ABU JAHL???
2- IS IT OK TO SAY:
OH ALLAH HAVE MERCY ON GEORGE W BUSH
Permalink 28/08/10 @ 09:42 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
ANTI-IKHWAN [Visitor]
IS IT OK TO SAY:
OH ALLAH HAQVE MERCY ON GEORGE W BUSH
YES OR NO?
OH ALLAH HAQVE MERCY ON GEORGE W BUSH
YES OR NO?
Permalink 28/08/10 @ 09:38 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
ANTI-IKHWAN [Visitor]
We are waiting for the answer of the many questions you escaped from.
One of them is:
IS PROPHET MOHAMMAD A BROTHER OF PHARAOH فرعون & ABU JAHL???
YES OR NO
PLEASE ANSWER BROTHER IKHWAN BEFORE WE CONTINUE
One of them is:
IS PROPHET MOHAMMAD A BROTHER OF PHARAOH فرعون & ABU JAHL???
YES OR NO
PLEASE ANSWER BROTHER IKHWAN BEFORE WE CONTINUE
Permalink 28/08/10 @ 08:58 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
Al-Ikhwan [Visitor]
As Salaam,
Brother Anti-Ikhwan/Abdulbaset I am not fooled by your attempts to pretend you are two differnet people, I know you are the same person, when you wrote rumour you wrote ''roomer'' in both posts also your style of writting is eaxactly the same which indicates its the same person.
I am only reply in order to correct you on a few points regarding the video of Shiekh Al qaradawi.
In the video Shiekh Al Qaradawi is asking for mercy for the good deed that was made by the pope. Now what was this good deed, the Pope was against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and has condemmned the actions of the Western Forces against the Muslims.
Now asking for mercy for the pope, firstly let me tell you about the word mercy and I will give you an example of what mercy can be. Suppose their are two people and one is torturing the other. The person being tortutred can ask and plead for mercy, and if the torturer has a merciful character he might ease his torture but not be as harsh. however if the the man being tortured asked for forgiveness and the man doing the torture has a forgiving nature then he would forgive and cease all torture.
Also we both know that their are different levels of hell, for example the hypocirtes will be at the bottom of hell whist Abu Talib will be in the shallow hell, according to the hadith I gave in my previous post. The reason Abu Talib is in the shallow hell is due to he fact he protected and stood up for the Prophet pbuh, thus Allah in all his mercy will put him into the shallow fire due to the prophets invocation.
This shows that although someone can disbelieve in Allah their are certain severity levels they can face depending on the persons deed and if he has done anything worth recieving mercy for e.g Abu Talib.
Also you asked me whether the Prophet and Abu Jahl were brothers, I refer you to my answer in my previous post Surah Hud ayah 50...''and to Ad (we sent) their BROTHER Hud'' Also verse 61 ''. If you continue reading this surah it goes on to say about other prophets being brothers to their nations. Now Ad' we both know were a corrupt Idol worshipping nation That killed the she-camel of Allah. How could a nation who worship Idols that killed the she-camel of Allah and insult the Prophet Salih, be the brother of Prophet Salih? The reason is that it does not mean brother in aith but brother in humanity, as we are all descedents Adam Biologically meaning we are the sons and Daughters of Adam, thus making us brothers.
Anyway brother Im offending by your comments regarding me following into the path of kuffar, who are you to say such a thing? I caution you from saying such a thing to a muslim because...Abu Dharr (May Allah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) saying, "If somebody accuses another of disbelief or calls him the enemy of Allah, such an accusation will revert to him (the accuser) if the accused is innocent.''
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].
I do not take things like what you have said lightly regarding me following into the path of kuffar so it is best that I stop interacting with you as you have crossed the line of brotherhood. However for your sake I forgive you for comment and hope that Allah Forgives us both.
Wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah
Brother Anti-Ikhwan/Abdulbaset I am not fooled by your attempts to pretend you are two differnet people, I know you are the same person, when you wrote rumour you wrote ''roomer'' in both posts also your style of writting is eaxactly the same which indicates its the same person.
I am only reply in order to correct you on a few points regarding the video of Shiekh Al qaradawi.
In the video Shiekh Al Qaradawi is asking for mercy for the good deed that was made by the pope. Now what was this good deed, the Pope was against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and has condemmned the actions of the Western Forces against the Muslims.
Now asking for mercy for the pope, firstly let me tell you about the word mercy and I will give you an example of what mercy can be. Suppose their are two people and one is torturing the other. The person being tortutred can ask and plead for mercy, and if the torturer has a merciful character he might ease his torture but not be as harsh. however if the the man being tortured asked for forgiveness and the man doing the torture has a forgiving nature then he would forgive and cease all torture.
Also we both know that their are different levels of hell, for example the hypocirtes will be at the bottom of hell whist Abu Talib will be in the shallow hell, according to the hadith I gave in my previous post. The reason Abu Talib is in the shallow hell is due to he fact he protected and stood up for the Prophet pbuh, thus Allah in all his mercy will put him into the shallow fire due to the prophets invocation.
This shows that although someone can disbelieve in Allah their are certain severity levels they can face depending on the persons deed and if he has done anything worth recieving mercy for e.g Abu Talib.
Also you asked me whether the Prophet and Abu Jahl were brothers, I refer you to my answer in my previous post Surah Hud ayah 50...''and to Ad (we sent) their BROTHER Hud'' Also verse 61 ''. If you continue reading this surah it goes on to say about other prophets being brothers to their nations. Now Ad' we both know were a corrupt Idol worshipping nation That killed the she-camel of Allah. How could a nation who worship Idols that killed the she-camel of Allah and insult the Prophet Salih, be the brother of Prophet Salih? The reason is that it does not mean brother in aith but brother in humanity, as we are all descedents Adam Biologically meaning we are the sons and Daughters of Adam, thus making us brothers.
Anyway brother Im offending by your comments regarding me following into the path of kuffar, who are you to say such a thing? I caution you from saying such a thing to a muslim because...Abu Dharr (May Allah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) saying, "If somebody accuses another of disbelief or calls him the enemy of Allah, such an accusation will revert to him (the accuser) if the accused is innocent.''
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].
I do not take things like what you have said lightly regarding me following into the path of kuffar so it is best that I stop interacting with you as you have crossed the line of brotherhood. However for your sake I forgive you for comment and hope that Allah Forgives us both.
Wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah
Permalink 27/08/10 @ 09:55 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
Visitor [Visitor]
Has Sajaad been dismissed from his job as an Imaam at
the central mosque?
Is he no longer an Imaam at the central mosque?
the central mosque?
Is he no longer an Imaam at the central mosque?
Permalink 26/08/10 @ 18:07 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
Abdul Baset [Visitor]
Salam Brother Al-Ikhwan.
It is you who launched attacke against people especially against Imam Dimishkie.
This is what you said:
" Shiekh Dimishqi, I agree was very Charismatic but lets now turn him into something of a hero, lets not forget why he alledgely got thrown out of Al-azhar University".
You are spreading nothing but roomers.
There was a false charge against him which when he was 12 years old. It was Azhar institute not university.
Futher more the same Azhar wrote a word of oppology to him for the mistake they made to him.
Where did your sources of roomers?
Sheikh Dimishkie started his study university studying in Imam Mohammad Bin Saud university.
I advice you not to copy the Habashi roomers. those Habashis are also enemies of Ikhwan, they make too many lies against them.
So don't blame brother ANTI-IKHWAN for the attack you started yourself.
When you talk about Sheikh Dimishie you should wash your mouth first.
By the way:
You said that believers and Kuffars are brothers.
I wonder if you could just answer this:
Is Abu Jahl a brother of Prophet Mohammad?
YES or NO?
It is you who launched attacke against people especially against Imam Dimishkie.
This is what you said:
" Shiekh Dimishqi, I agree was very Charismatic but lets now turn him into something of a hero, lets not forget why he alledgely got thrown out of Al-azhar University".
You are spreading nothing but roomers.
There was a false charge against him which when he was 12 years old. It was Azhar institute not university.
Futher more the same Azhar wrote a word of oppology to him for the mistake they made to him.
Where did your sources of roomers?
Sheikh Dimishkie started his study university studying in Imam Mohammad Bin Saud university.
I advice you not to copy the Habashi roomers. those Habashis are also enemies of Ikhwan, they make too many lies against them.
So don't blame brother ANTI-IKHWAN for the attack you started yourself.
When you talk about Sheikh Dimishie you should wash your mouth first.
By the way:
You said that believers and Kuffars are brothers.
I wonder if you could just answer this:
Is Abu Jahl a brother of Prophet Mohammad?
YES or NO?
Permalink 26/08/10 @ 12:24 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
Admin [Visitor]
Could all posts to this web site be respectful to each other and every person who makes a post on this web site has the right to list their evidence and supporting information, so a meaningful discussion can take place without any slandering.
Permalink 26/08/10 @ 11:25 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
ANTI-IKHWAN [Visitor]
Assalamu alaikum my brother.
Thanks for reminding me, I never intended not to say salam to you.
As for the link it was a mistake, and I don't know how it happened. I remember this is a funny clip it was suggested to me to watch, but you went too far with your analogy about it.
This is the link where Al-Qaradawi asked Allah to grant His mercy to the leader of Trinity & cross.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiyMAFM1Xls
I think too that we shouldn't keep on this debate any longer because you passed by the verses & Ahaadith I put to you as if you didn't read any thing, and I am not going to repeat them.
You are conceded, and may Allah cure you from the disease of haughtiness.
If Allah said He grants no Mercy to the Kuffar, why do you need a special verse to say to you don't ask Allah to grant Kuffar mercy?
It should be clear enough to those who have mind that it is Haram to ask Allah to do what He said I will not do.
Give you another example:
Allah said the Kuffar will not go to paradise, but there is no verse where Allah says « don't ask Allah paradise for the Kuffar.
Can you find me a verse where Allah said don’t ask Jannah for Kuffar?!!!
Thus the reader can realize you full ignorance and foolish way of dealing & understanding with the sources of Deen.
In fact you should be the one to be asked:
How you allowed yourself to ask Allah's mercy while the Quran didn't allow it nor the prophet.
YOU SHOULD RATHER BE ASKED:
If the prophet didn't do it why you do it?
We know that the prophet was as Allah described him: (to the believers is RA'UF RAHIM)
Allah says:
لقد جاءكم رسول من أنفسكم عزيز عليه ما عنتم حريص عليكم بالمؤمنين رؤوف رحيم
TRANSLATION:
« There has come to you a Messenger from among yourselves. Grievous to him is what you suffer, [he is] concerned over you, and to the believers is kind and merciful» (TAwba 128)
Ma Sha Allah your mercy is wider than the mercy of the prophet so that it encompassed the Kuffar also.
May be you deserve to be the prophet more than Prophet Mohammad because you have unlimited extra mercy. Your mercy included ABU JAHL & PHARAO.
So are you going to say Oh Allah grant Your mercy on George W Bush if he died?
Here is another evidence:
Allah prohibited Prophet Mohammad SAAW from praying to Allah for the hypocrites (Munafiqeen).
Allah says:
ولا تصل على أحد منهم مات أبدا ولا تقم على قبره إنهم كفروا بالله ورسوله.
TRANSLATION:
« And do not pray [the funeral prayer, O Muhammad ] , over any of them who has died – ever – or stand at his grave. Indeed , they disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger and died while they were defiantly disobedient» (Tawba83).
We know that the prophet taught us to say in our funeral prayer: «Oh Allah forgive him, Ah Allah have mercy on him».
As the reader sees, I have showered you with evidences but you passed them over.
With The seeker of truth one evidence will be enough for him, but as for the innovator & rejecter of the truth: thousands of evidences will not be enough for him.
I am afraid that your rejection of all the clear evidences from the book & the Sunnah may cause you to fall in Kufr.
So, comply to what Allah said & His messenger & stop your haughty behavior may Allah guide you.
I know well that Ikhwan lack knowledge, so I agree with you to stop debating with some one like you who suffer ignorance yet he thinks that he is a good debater at the same time.
Wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah
Thanks for reminding me, I never intended not to say salam to you.
As for the link it was a mistake, and I don't know how it happened. I remember this is a funny clip it was suggested to me to watch, but you went too far with your analogy about it.
This is the link where Al-Qaradawi asked Allah to grant His mercy to the leader of Trinity & cross.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiyMAFM1Xls
I think too that we shouldn't keep on this debate any longer because you passed by the verses & Ahaadith I put to you as if you didn't read any thing, and I am not going to repeat them.
You are conceded, and may Allah cure you from the disease of haughtiness.
If Allah said He grants no Mercy to the Kuffar, why do you need a special verse to say to you don't ask Allah to grant Kuffar mercy?
It should be clear enough to those who have mind that it is Haram to ask Allah to do what He said I will not do.
Give you another example:
Allah said the Kuffar will not go to paradise, but there is no verse where Allah says « don't ask Allah paradise for the Kuffar.
Can you find me a verse where Allah said don’t ask Jannah for Kuffar?!!!
Thus the reader can realize you full ignorance and foolish way of dealing & understanding with the sources of Deen.
In fact you should be the one to be asked:
How you allowed yourself to ask Allah's mercy while the Quran didn't allow it nor the prophet.
YOU SHOULD RATHER BE ASKED:
If the prophet didn't do it why you do it?
We know that the prophet was as Allah described him: (to the believers is RA'UF RAHIM)
Allah says:
لقد جاءكم رسول من أنفسكم عزيز عليه ما عنتم حريص عليكم بالمؤمنين رؤوف رحيم
TRANSLATION:
« There has come to you a Messenger from among yourselves. Grievous to him is what you suffer, [he is] concerned over you, and to the believers is kind and merciful» (TAwba 128)
Ma Sha Allah your mercy is wider than the mercy of the prophet so that it encompassed the Kuffar also.
May be you deserve to be the prophet more than Prophet Mohammad because you have unlimited extra mercy. Your mercy included ABU JAHL & PHARAO.
So are you going to say Oh Allah grant Your mercy on George W Bush if he died?
Here is another evidence:
Allah prohibited Prophet Mohammad SAAW from praying to Allah for the hypocrites (Munafiqeen).
Allah says:
ولا تصل على أحد منهم مات أبدا ولا تقم على قبره إنهم كفروا بالله ورسوله.
TRANSLATION:
« And do not pray [the funeral prayer, O Muhammad ] , over any of them who has died – ever – or stand at his grave. Indeed , they disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger and died while they were defiantly disobedient» (Tawba83).
We know that the prophet taught us to say in our funeral prayer: «Oh Allah forgive him, Ah Allah have mercy on him».
As the reader sees, I have showered you with evidences but you passed them over.
With The seeker of truth one evidence will be enough for him, but as for the innovator & rejecter of the truth: thousands of evidences will not be enough for him.
I am afraid that your rejection of all the clear evidences from the book & the Sunnah may cause you to fall in Kufr.
So, comply to what Allah said & His messenger & stop your haughty behavior may Allah guide you.
I know well that Ikhwan lack knowledge, so I agree with you to stop debating with some one like you who suffer ignorance yet he thinks that he is a good debater at the same time.
Wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah
Permalink 26/08/10 @ 11:06 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
Al-Ikhwan [Visitor]
Just one more quick point.
you said ''We will not move to the next point until I hear from you.''
You don't dictate the debate.
End of Debate.
you said ''We will not move to the next point until I hear from you.''
You don't dictate the debate.
End of Debate.
Permalink 26/08/10 @ 07:14 In response to: Comment on the facilities at Central Mosque Edinburgh
Al-Ikhwan [Visitor]
As- salaam
Avoiding The point again!
I asked you to bring me one AYAH where it says you can't ask for Mercy for non-believers or even a hadith, but yet you failed.
Also you have such upstanding character that you would never insult me or any other muslim?????
So why did you add this link?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqyG4aAhii4&NR=1
Secondly you referred to me as Mr. Fanatic
Thirdly you wrote ''shame on you, you & your evil Ikhwanic Qaradawi'' So you are quick to call me and Al Qaradawi evil, which would be difficult for a real muslim to call his brother.
Also the fact you wouldn't even say As Salaam before you put up you post, instead trying to go straight for the jugular shows you don't even consider me your brother,
I am ending this debate because we are going round in circles around point one. You first started of listing 11 points which I successfully responded, yet you can't even answer the first point let alone the rest, which is why you are delaying the answering the rest of my points put forward.
No doubt you consider Al Qaradwai and Al-Ikhwan and anyone else who doesn't follow your extreme sect as kuffar, this is clear to me as you say his fatwas are ''demonic''. For something to be demonic it has to have originated from an evil source which is what you are implying.
Your understanding of Islam is so weak and flimsy, i am almost embarassed to be debating you because you out your depth with debating me. You never answer the point always diverting the subject and bringing up ayahs which have no relevance to the point in question.
I knew straight away that you were struggling by the points I raised which is way you put up that youtube link because you got frustrated and was trying to offend me, but alhamdililah I wasn't frustrated but just felt sorry for that you would have to act so childishly when discussing Islamic matters, which inturn discredited you.
To end this I'm just going to say that if I offended you then I apologise for any hurt you may have felt, my intention wasn't to hurt but to educate. Also I am not an official member of Al-Ikhwan but sympathise with their Ideals greatly and have tremendous respect for Shiekh Al Qaradawi, a man of truth.
Anyway may Allah forgive us both in this month of ramadan
wa salamu alaikum.
Avoiding The point again!
I asked you to bring me one AYAH where it says you can't ask for Mercy for non-believers or even a hadith, but yet you failed.
Also you have such upstanding character that you would never insult me or any other muslim?????
So why did you add this link?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqyG4aAhii4&NR=1
Secondly you referred to me as Mr. Fanatic
Thirdly you wrote ''shame on you, you & your evil Ikhwanic Qaradawi'' So you are quick to call me and Al Qaradawi evil, which would be difficult for a real muslim to call his brother.
Also the fact you wouldn't even say As Salaam before you put up you post, instead trying to go straight for the jugular shows you don't even consider me your brother,
I am ending this debate because we are going round in circles around point one. You first started of listing 11 points which I successfully responded, yet you can't even answer the first point let alone the rest, which is why you are delaying the answering the rest of my points put forward.
No doubt you consider Al Qaradwai and Al-Ikhwan and anyone else who doesn't follow your extreme sect as kuffar, this is clear to me as you say his fatwas are ''demonic''. For something to be demonic it has to have originated from an evil source which is what you are implying.
Your understanding of Islam is so weak and flimsy, i am almost embarassed to be debating you because you out your depth with debating me. You never answer the point always diverting the subject and bringing up ayahs which have no relevance to the point in question.
I knew straight away that you were struggling by the points I raised which is way you put up that youtube link because you got frustrated and was trying to offend me, but alhamdililah I wasn't frustrated but just felt sorry for that you would have to act so childishly when discussing Islamic matters, which inturn discredited you.
To end this I'm just going to say that if I offended you then I apologise for any hurt you may have felt, my intention wasn't to hurt but to educate. Also I am not an official member of Al-Ikhwan but sympathise with their Ideals greatly and have tremendous respect for Shiekh Al Qaradawi, a man of truth.
Anyway may Allah forgive us both in this month of ramadan
wa salamu alaikum.
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